Your best 2x 2GB PC3-12800 (1600Mhz)?

[jalyst]

Hi,

Which of these are your best 2x 2GB PC3-12800 for over/under-clocking?
http://www.gskill.com/products.php?index=179
http://www.gskill.com/products.php?index=87
http://www.gskill.com/products.php?index=185
http://www.gskill.com/products.php?index=220
http://www.gskill.com/products.php?index=222
http://www.gskill.com/products.php?index=221
http://www.gskill.com/products.php?index=243
http://www.gskill.com/products.php?index=226
http://www.gskill.com/products.php?index=249
http://www.gskill.com/products.php?index=248
http://www.gskill.com/products.php?index=247

Often the two go together....
If something OC's well with minimal voltage increase, then it's usually also a good under-clocker.

It must be flexible with latency timings...
So that when OC'ing one can loosen them, & when under-clocking or running at stock (I'll do that mostly), one can lower them.

The Eco series or the PI's look like they might be the best fit.
http://www.legionhardware.com/articl...cl7_4gb,7.html
http://www.hardwareheaven.com/review...=926&pageid=11

Thank-you.

[Tradesman]

For versatility, think I'd go with the Ripjaw set at CL7:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231303

[jalyst]

arent the eco cl7 more versatile?

[Tradesman]

They may well be, I like having the additional voltage to play with when thinking OC or underclock

[jalyst]

You mean you think the Eco may be even better because they're starting-off from a lower voltage point?
Sorry to keep harping on, but could I possibly get some more deeply pondered responses?

Most Appreciatively.

[jalyst]

I think it mostly comes down to these
http://www.gskill.com/products.php?index=179
http://www.gskill.com/products.php?index=87
http://www.gskill.com/products.php?index=220
http://www.gskill.com/products.php?index=226
http://www.gskill.com/products.php?index=247

Which are decent OC'rs for 2x 2GB PC3-12800 parts?
Also if you under-clock them below stock, can you get tighter timings, & can they run on even less voltage?

I mostly want to run at stock or under-clock w/tighter timings....
But on the rare occasion that I game, a decent OC (not hard-core) would be nice too!

Not sure I'd have quite as much luck as others with a GA-H57M-USB3 though
I believe the memory controller on the Clarkdale's (I'm getting Core i3-530) reverts back to the Core micro-architecture.
And of course a lot depends on the board and it's BIOS....

Any thoughts/advice on the ideal RAM for my usage type/s greatly appreciated!
If any further questions feel free to fire away!

[GSKILL TECH]

The ECO series DDR3-1600 CL7 would be a high performance memory package to go with. It can downclock and overclock very well especially given the extra amount fo voltage to work with. Especially on your new H57 motherboard, you should be more than satisfied.

Thank you
GSKILL SUPPORT

[jalyst]

So what are the advantages of the other ones in my finalist list.
In what scenarios should users choose one of them, instead of the Eco?

Thank-you.

[mudmarine]

Having all the time in the world and all the information you need to make the perfect decision is a luxury you are unlikely to every get in the real world. Learn to make the best decision you can with the limited info you have in the time you are given, or don't play.

Welcome to life.

Mud

[GSKILL TECH]

What advantages are you talking about? You asked for the best, so ECO is the best at that frequency, latency, voltage. Anything else is a different frequency, latency, or voltage, so it can either be better or worse, but like I said for DDR3-1600, the ECO CL7 would be the way to go. It is not a life threatening situation, and you would not notice the difference between them anyway.

Also, please do not post the same questions in multiple threads and forums. Simply create your own thread and people will respond to it as needed. That way your information is consolidated, otherwise I see that you copy and pasted the same messages in many threads on several forums.

Thank you
GSKILL SUPPORT

[jalyst]

I'm well within my rights to post similar questions in different forums.
I do concede I posted in 3 threads (inc mine) in this forum, but they were all threads relating to the Eco.
I apologise though if I've cause problems as a result of this....

You don't seem to be getting my latest posts, I am not asking what the best is.
I'm asking why you wouldn't suggest one of these DDR3-1600 low latency pairs:

http://www.gskill.com/products.php?index=179
http://www.gskill.com/products.php?index=87
http://www.gskill.com/products.php?index=220
http://www.gskill.com/products.php?index=226

What is the rationale or usage patterns one needs to pick each of these over the Eco?
I'm not getting a clear cut rationale as to why the Eco is the best choice for my situation.

I mean are you basing your recommendation on my set-up & the usage requirements I've outlined?
Have I been clear enough in that regard for you yet?
I don't get why you say; "just use x, it's the best". Why is the Eco more suitable than the others?

Thank-you.

[jalyst]

This is roughly the kind of response I'm talking about;

If you are going to run the mem @ stock then yes this is a great kit to buy due to the power and heat savings. If you want mem for benching or top end OC you should go with a Ripjaws or Trident kit.

I had pretty-much ascertained this myself, but some corroboration of ones logic is always nice!
Of course another question then stems from this...

Are the Eco better suited for under-clock/volts + lowered timings, or can the RJ/PI/TD scale just as well in that regard?

[jalyst]

Was this received, I hope I didn't offend?!
I was just explaining why I was still asking questions.
I hope you see what I'm trying to understand know?

Thank-you.

[mudmarine]

Put down the Jolt Cola and back away from the keyboard.

[mudmarine]

Looks like Jalyst/Jed finally got his answer. Congrats Jed. Pedantic is an understatement.

From Legion Hardware Review.

<<<<< #37 Posted on: 02/26/2010 04:43 AM
Hmm I guess they're advantage over the other G.Skill DDR3-1600 performance class sticks is...

1)You can get moderate OC's on substantially less voltage.
2)You can under-clock to the same cut-off-point as the other sticks, but do so using less voltage all the way down, & with equally good timings?

I'm not expecting them to OC as well as the PI, TD, or RJ (what the heck's the difference between those three anyway, why so many?), but it'd be nice if they still OC'd decently.

More importantly for me ....
Can they run at lower voltages/timings at stock or when under-clocked, than the other sticks?

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I think this pretty much sums it up and agrees with my research on the subject. To go along with what Tradesman said, your not going to be able to tell the difference between CL6, CL7 and CL8 except in a synthetic benchmark. Why make a big fuss? Even the benchmarks over at Tom's show that I7/I5/I3 memory controllers are that sensitive to different memory speeds, ie. your not going to see much difference in real world applications between hypothetical cl7 2000mhz DDR3 and cl9 1066 mhz dd3. The sweat spot is CL8 1600. Shoot for that and call it good.

Mud