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Cant decide what memory to use... MSI 790FX-GD70 + AMD965
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Originally posted by Onslaught2k3 View Post??? G.skill doesn't use BEMP they use XMP which is the same exact thing. People are fooled by such marketing gimmicks like "Black Edition" this, and "Overdrive" that. Intel/ATI and AMD/Nvidia builds are just fine. Intel architectures have more headroom for better latencies than AMD platforms do. And the latencies should be as low as possible, yes, but at the highest possible clock speeds. You get far better reads/writes on RAM when they're clocked at higher speeds. Some companies who manufacture RAM modules opt in to attract AMD customers and G.skill does it by using "flare" series RAM modules. I keep having to state this but no matter what RAM sticks you put in to your computer as long as you know the TIMINGS for those particular modules (even if they're not on the QVL list for your motherboard) there's a great chance the modules will still work. AMD processors can't support CL6 (some VERY VERY LUCKY FOLKS have been able to) but CL7 isn't much slower at all.
BEMP works through AMD's Overdrive software. Supported AM3 motherboards can detect compatible memory and connect to the internet to download an XML profile with the appropriate memory timings - this means profiles can be rapidly updated, revised and included.
AMD Overdrive 3.0 software can tune the memory timings on the fly, as well as automatically boost the CPU northbridge frequency and voltage.
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Originally posted by Altered View PostPlease dont be offended but from what I have read they are not the same exact thing.
Editing timings, voltages, and speeds outside of BIOS alike is risky with windows services and threads running in the background anyways. The options are available through BIOS and don't take 10 minutes to load like some systems take. The time spent waiting for the profiles to load and be configured on your system you could've edited the timings through BIOS, booted, and got to doing what you have to do on that computer already. There is a wealth of information waiting to be accessed, including the information disclosed in this thread alone. I personally don't like tuning software while in windows and would avoid it at all costs (GPU tuning can't be done through BIOS, unfortunately).Last edited by Onslaught2k3; 08-30-2010, 02:33 PM.AMD Ryzen 5 1600X @ 3.99 Ghz 1.38V
ASRock x370 Taichi v2.0 BIOS
16GB TridentZ RGB DDR4 3200 @14-14-14-34-75 TRC-312 TRFC - 1T
EVGA Geforce GTX 1070 FTW
EVGA G2 750W
Samsung 960 Evo 250GB, 2x Intel 530 120GB, 1x Seagate 1TB
Intel s1155 2600K proc
ASUS Maximus 4 extreme motherboard
4x2GB GSkillF3-17000CL9D-4GBXL @ 2133 9-11-9-28-2T
ASUS Geforce GTX 580 DCII @ 900/1800/4008/1.1V
SeaSonic X-760 PSU
G.Skill phoenix 120GB SSD
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"BEMP" memory is just lower performance memory. It is a way to filter out memory that some AMD users can not use/support. So for example, we can put DDR3-1333 CL7, CL8 modules as "BEMP" supported, but not DDR3-1600 CL6, CL7. This way people just purchase "BEMP" memory (compatible), instead of purchasing memory better than their system can support. Either way it's basically the same, just more "comfortable" for some users.
Companies have to stay afloat some how... lifetime warranty, low pricing, recession, the market is tough, so these ideas can help attract stray customers that aren't quite sure what to purchase. Once you see black edition memory, and you have a black edition CPU, you want to just get that instead. =)
Great idea if you ask me though, but G.Skill is built on advanced users, so the route we take is slightly different.
Oh, and lastly, you will find that XMP is BEMP, as long as your CPU can support the specifications. We have been on this "new technology" for a long time in the Intel world, it is just new for AMD users. Some companies even state "XMP READY!" like it's something special.. well, no it's not, it's standard on G.Skill modules.
Thank you
GSKILL TECHLast edited by GSKILL TECH; 08-31-2010, 03:38 PM.
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Re: Confused?
To Administrator,
With all the conversation over BEMP memory, my original question has been overlooked.
I am building a system consisting of an MSI 790FX-GD70 and a 965 Black Edition CPU. I haven't decided on the DDR3 yet, other than 4G (2+2). From what I have read, it is best to stay at 1333 with a low CAS latency. I do not plan on overclocking. Aside from all the positive reviews on Newegg for F3-12800CL9D-4GBRL, I think that F3-10666CL7D-4GBRH would be better for only a few dollars more. It runs at 1333 and at CL7. Am I missing something, or wouldn't this be the best choice?
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