MSI 790FX-GD70 F3-12800CL9-2GBNQ Freeze Lockup

[will]

I am having a heck of a time getting my MB/Memory combo to work. I need some expert advice or possibly a

recommendation for replacements, though I hate to throw all this money away. Here is my system than randomly

freezes like so many other 790FX systems out there are doing. I've been working at this for well over a month

now. I've yet to find my workaround though. Any help is greatly appreciated.

System:
MSI 790FX-GD70(MS-7577)
AMD Phenom II X4 955 Deneb 3200MHz
2x2Gb DDR3 F3-12800CL9-2GBNQ (slot 1+2) (tested individually with memtest)
ASUS ATI Radeon HD 5850 1Gb (driver 8.671, Catalyst: 9.11) (slot 3)
Windows 7 64 (re-installed fresh 3 times)

Initial Setup: (No others settings have changed from factory default)
C1E: On
C&Q: Auto
DRAM Freq: Auto (666.7)
Timings: Auto (9-9-9-24)
Command Rate: Auto (1T)
DRAM Voltage: Auto (1.5)
NB Voltage: Auto
HT Voltage: Auto
MB Bios: 1.5
Results: Random system freezes after startup regardless of application. No cursor or keyboard, hard reset

neccessary

Second Setup: Read MSI Forums and manually set timings and turned off C&Q
C1E: On
C&Q: Off
DRAM Freq: 666
Timings: 9-9-9-24 tRC: 33
Command Rate: 1T
DRAM Voltage: Auto
NB Voltage: Auto
HT Voltage: Auto
MB Bios: 1.7
Result: Same random system freezes

Third Setup: Read suggestions to up the DRAM Voltage
C1E: On
C&Q: Off
DRAM Freq: 666
Timings: 9-9-9-24 tRC: 33
Command Rate: 1T
DRAM Voltage: 1.8
NB Voltage: Auto
HT Voltage: Auto
MB Bios: 1.7
Result: Ran for two days, then froze while watching video.

Fourth Setup: Finally found advice on the G.Skill forums and copied recommended settings for this MB/Memory

combo
C1E: On
C&Q: Off
DRAM Freq: 800
Timings: 9-9-9-24 tRC:40
Command Rate: 2T
DRAM Voltage: 1.7
NB Voltage: 1.2
HT Voltage: 1.3
MB Bios: 1.7
Results: Ran for two days, then rebooted itself and displayed a HT Overflow error.

Fifth Setup: Read on MSI forums there may be a bios issue, reverted bios to 1.6
C1E: on
C&Q: Off
DRAM Freq: 800
Timings: 9-9-9-24 tRC:40
Command Rate: 2T
DRAM Voltage: 1.7
NB Voltage: 1.2
HT Voltage: 1.3
MB Bios: 1.6
Results: Ran for six days, then froze solid during a game.

Sixth Setup: Re-read g.skill forums and upped the HT voltage more.
C1E: On
C&Q: Off
DRAM Freq: 800
Timings: 9-9-9-24 tRC:40
Command Rate: 2T
DRAM Voltage: 1.7
NB Voltage: 1.2
HT Voltage: 1.4
MB Bios: 1.6
Results: Ran for 1 day, the froze solid while idling.

Seventh Setup: Read newegg comments and turned off C1E. Also lowerest Memory speed
C1E: Off
C&Q: Off
DRAM Freq: 666
Timings: 9-9-9-24 tRC:40
Command Rate: 2T
DRAM Voltage: 1.7
NB Voltage: 1.2
HT Voltage: 1.4
MB Bios: 1.6
Results: Ran for 1 day, the froze solid while watching movie.

Current Setup: No clue what's going on, trying best guess settings
C1E: Off
C&Q: Off
DRAM Freq: 666
Timings: 9-9-9-24 tRC:33
Command Rate: 1T
DRAM Voltage: 1.7
NB Voltage: 1.2
HT Voltage: 1.3
MB Bios: 1.6
Results: unknown

[GSKILL TECH]

These are the optimum settings:

C1E: Off
C&Q: Off
DRAM Freq: 800
Timings: 9-9-9-24 tRC:33
Command Rate: 2T
DRAM Voltage: 1.6
NB Voltage: AUTO
HT Voltage: AUTO

Have you tried them in the other two slots? Keep me posted on the results.

Thank you
GSKILL SUPPORT

[will]

Thank you for the quick response. I will try these settings. In the meantime, may I verify that you want me to set tRC to 33? the SPD shows 33 is for 666MHz.

Here was the original thread I based one of my configurations on: http://www.gskill.us/forum/showpost....52&postcount=2

In that thread, the user had the exact motherboard and memory modules I had. The only difference was he had four sticks and I have two. Also in that post the g.skill tech said those settings were the tested settings. Would you cross reference your suggestion with that one? thanks!

Will

[GSKILL TECH]

Simply leave tRC to AUTO and the motherboard will be able to detect the correct value. Or simply use the XMP Profile.

Thank you
GSKILL SUPPORT

[will]

Still freezing

I've added these configuration to my failure list. Hope this helps!

Current Setup: g.skill support suggest these settings after posting.
C1E: Off
C&Q: Off
DRAM Freq: 800
Timings: 9-9-9-24 tRC:33
Command Rate: 2T
DRAM Voltage: 1.6
NB Voltage: auto
HT Voltage: auto
MB Bios: 1.6
Results: locked up during video after two days

Current Setup: I upped the voltage and lowered the memory speed
C1E: Off
C&Q: Off
DRAM Freq: 666
Timings: 9-9-9-24 tRC:33
Command Rate: 2T
DRAM Voltage: 1.65
NB Voltage: auto
HT Voltage: auto
MB Bios: 1.6
Results: froze the next day browsing the web.

Current Setup: Stabbing in the dark again, adding other settings that I've read mentioned in other posts, but haven't used before.
C1E: Off
C&Q: Off
DRAM Freq: 800
Timings: 9-9-9-24 tRC:40
Command Rate: 2T
DRAM Voltage: 1.7
NB Voltage: auto
HT Voltage: auto
cpu-nb: auto
trfc0: 160
trfc1: 160
trfc2: 160
trfc3: 160
MB Bios: 1.6
Results: unknown

[will]

Just Froze again

I only had IE open and I was following a link from a google search and it froze. Any suggestions?

In the meantime, I'm shifting my settings again:

C1E: Off
C&Q: Off
DRAM Freq: 800
Timings: 9-9-9-24 tRC:40
Command Rate: 2T
DRAM Voltage: 1.7
NB Voltage: 1.2
HT Voltage: 1.3
cpu-nb: auto
trfc0: 160
trfc1: 160
trfc2: 160
trfc3: 160
MB Bios: 1.6
Results: unknown

[will]

checking in

I'm not sure if gskill support is following this... So far I havn't had a lockup since the 19th, but it's still early. Do you think posting here is productive? I'm wondering why there's been no responses, unless I'm just thinking and doing everything gskill support would have me do. Is baby steps my only option?

Sorry, I thought I had read that g.skill tested this MB with the memory from reading the post I've linked to earlier, so I was looking for some pre-tested setting to help me out. Is that not the case?

[GSKILL TECH]

Go ahead and send those in for new replacements. You may have a problem with one of the two sticks causing the issues.

Thank you
GSKILL SUPPORT

[will]

Just locked up again, so yeah, replacement it is. Does this mean I have to be without a computer for a few weeks? Is there a simialar model I could get instead of this stuff that's in the same class? I don't even mind if its 1333 so long as its stable. I ask because this is very discouraging and I don't want to keep going through this.

[Tradesman]

Have you narrowed it down to a single stick w/ the problems, via Memtest or whatever....if so you can RMA a single bad stick

[will]

Tradesman: Yes, I had tested one stick at a time. However, this was a while ago and I have not tested each stick with the voltage settings that gave me what appered to be more stability. I'll try that just to be sure before finishing the RMA.

I'm also currently running my system at factory default settings right now, but I updated the bios from 1.6 to 1.7 again. I had never tested the default settings with the latest bios and wanted to verify that also. The only experience I had with 1.7 was when my voltages were all turned up, per another post I read and I got "HT overflow" errors.

Do you think there is a faster way to get this thing to lockup? I've tried running multple apps and pushing the cpu and memory way up, but it just wants to lockup on its own schedule it would seem.

[MadDias]

my guess is, that?s it not a memory issue.
if u are gettin the "hyper transport sync flood error" message after the reboot, then it is a bios issue.
all bioses newer than the 1.6betas are affected by this bug.
i tested the 1.8b4 bios for a 2days and it locked up 3times.
i?m running the 1.6b3 bios and set all the timings according to the xmp profile with a trc of 33 and haven?t had any lockups and reboots since then.

[Tradesman]

Thanks for the update and info, keep bugging MSI on the BIOS fix and they may work on it a bit harder, otherwise they may let it sit

[will]

MadDias, thank you.

Would you tell me how to get the beta versions? I've tested with 1.5, 1.6, and 1.7, which I've found on the MSI website, but do not know where to download any beta versions of the bios.

Since my last post, I've had a hyper transport sync flood with one of my sticks. I'm currently running on the other stick to see if it will lockup too. So far, so good, but it's only been a couple days. I'm currently on bios 1.7, which is the only bios version that reboots the computer and displays that error on post as opposed to simply freezing.

[MadDias]

hi will,

i hope it?s ok to post a link to another forum...
tony from ocz has a complete list of all the beta bioses.
http://www.ocztechnologyforum.com/fo...ad.php?t=59825

u should check out the 1.6b3, seems to be the most stable for me.
and don?t forget to set all ur timings manually like in the xmp profile.